I see I’ll have my hands and head full for a little while.Here's my review of the fantastic pointed pen calligraphy ink, Higgins Eternal. I’ll work with the materials I have on hand for now, and then try out the noodler’s eternal next time around. Once this test patch was dry, I stroked the area with water, and the ink did not budge. Martin India Ink I had in my drawer (I don’t know why I’ve never thought to use this before), stroked the lines with a wet brush and it flowed ever so nicely into the values I was looking to get. I then laid down strokes with a dip pen and some Dr. This ink reactivated on the second wetting, so not really ideal for what I was looking for. Once the ink was dry, I wet the area again with water, and tried to get the ink to run. I laid down some strokes with a water soluble pentel color brush pen, stroked it with a brush loaded with water while the ink was still wet, pulled out some value, then let sit to dry. Your answers, and a little experimentation have helped me get the answer I was looking for. ![]() I don’t really post much, but I’ve been reading for a long time, and I know I can count on you experts in here to guide me in the right direction. You are all incredibly knowledgeable and helpful. Thank you all for the responses to my question. Of course, experiment will be your guide here If you don’t scrub away at it, the bottom layer often grips the paper so well that it stays put. ![]() These inks should be very viable in mixing with water-colours, I think, I cannot see why not.īTW, in laying down washes, or laying wash over ink, often only water-resistance, not waterproof, is necessary. ![]() But that has changed with a new breed of inks that are colourful, permanent and waterproof: the acrylic inks that use acrylic resin as a binder and nano-particle pigments. It used to be that inks could not compete with water-colours in terms of archival permanence, because few of the dyes used in their manufacture were permanent. I guess a better way of asking this question is, just how long can water soluble ink maintains its solubility before becoming permanent? Will it ever have permanence after being wet and dried?Īre you confusing “permanent” with “waterproof”? Permanence refers to a pigment’s resistance to light and fading, it has nothing to do with the ink’s solubility. I hope this answers your question, I wasn’t totally sure if I’ve understood it fully. There are of course other options like india ink & dip pen or using one of the many brands of waterproof fibre tip pens & certain brands of of gel pens. If you wish to use a permanent black line & then watercolour over the top without any effect on your sharp lines after drying -use “Platignum Carbon Black ” ink – when using a fountain pen it is a gold standard amongst artists who work in this way. Basically though all of these inks will bleed into a watercolour wash applied over the top & are not light fast either. Often how long they’ve dried for has a bearing on this behaviour. ![]() Where as “Rotring ” fountain pen ink will explode with the slightest drop of water on it – even after years of drying! These are two extremes there are many inks in between. For example “Diamine” brand although water soluble & normal fountain pen inks are very resistant to lifting after they’ve dried for a while. All water soluble inks have varying degrees of how easily they become soluble again on exposure to water, it depends on the manufacturer of the ink.
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